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Whiteman Family

7th November 2018

Many thanks Kevin I understand there could of been 5 brothers in total the served Will buy the book Regards
Peter

You might want to get "The Brave Remembered - Battle at War 1914-1919 by George Kiloh from bookshops in Battle or from the Battle & District History Society. It goes into detail not only about James but also 2 brothers that survived, Charles Edwin and Stanley.

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Whiteman Family

2nd November 2018

Paul Whiteman:

Dear Peter,

Your grandfather, James Whiteman was my Great Uncle.

My wife and I have just paid a visit to the Somme battlefields and visited his grave (2nd time for myself) and I see there was a cross from Pete his grandson. This made me do a bit of digging, and a search on google brought up your message on the Rye message board.

I live in Broad Oak, Brede and have worked in Rye for over 30 years - now part time!

I would love to hear from you and find out what you know about our ancestor.

As you probably know there where a lot of siblings involved and it has not been easy tracing relatives.

My grandfather was Reginald, born in 1899 and was the youngest.

Hope to hear from you,

Paul

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Daniel Gill 1795

24th October 2018

Brian Houghton:

I think Pitts tax on clocks was the last straw for clock makers and perhaps encouraged Daniel Gill to go into banking, Passing on his clock/ watch business to his son Samuel. I think Samuel Gill concentrated on making watches, silver, and jewelry as I don't know if he actually made any clocks?

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Daniel Gill 1795

23rd October 2018

Brian Houghton:

We believe we have Samuel Gills workshop long case clock.

It has three scratched dates on the back of the painted dial. One mark possibly installation 1810. The dial shows the Prince of Wales feathers in the corners.and a picture of a sailing boat entering harbor. The unusual part is we believe Apps of battle made the precision 8 day works. another date 1818.

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Sheltered Accommodation

15th October 2018

Richard Duddridge:

I notice that the date is Feb 26th 2007 and am referring to your article, advising a couple from London, that the father can register for sheltered. Sadly this is not so. Please confirm. Applicants have to have lived in Rye or had a connection with Rye!

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Daniel Gill 1795

15th October 2018

Bob Wilcock:

Brian, Daniel Gill moved to Rye after Samuel was born & was well established by 1791: "silversmith, clock & watchmaker & agent for Royal Exchange Assurance" per the Universal British Directory. Samuel took over his father's shop in 1810 & moved out of Rye 1817/18. Does anyone know if he continued clock/watchmaking after that date, & if so where? (Incidentally I agree the Bonham's clock is superb - they had a plainer, cheaper one in July.)

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Clockmaking Family: Gill

15th October 2018

Bob Wilcock:

Brian, As member of BBHS perhaps you have more information on the early history of Rye Bank. The first partners in the UBD 1791 are not the same as those in John Orbell's book. The partners he lists, EJ & Wm Curtis, Woollett & Dawes were the partners up to 1814 except that Daniel Gill had joined by then. You mention he joined by 1810 but he is mentioned as a banker in a deed of 1808 at ESRO. Do you know if he stayed banker until he died in 1833, or did he retire earlier? Do you know the address or addresses in the High Street for the bank? It seems not to have been the same as Daniel & Samuel Gill's clockmakers, since the bank is rated separately, at least from 1799. The partners changed dramatically in 1814, but Daniel Gill stayed & was named in Pigot 1823. He describes himself as a banker in his will made 1829. I am preparing a biography of Daniel, so any help is appreciated, either through the message board, or email [email protected] Thank you

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Clockmaking Family: Gill

1st October 2018

Brian Houghton:

Was this not Samuel Gill, Daniels son who had watches stolen? I think Daniel had turned to Banking by 1810 and son took over business until 1817. Brian

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Daniel Gill 1795

29th September 2018

Brian Houghton:

I note that a London dealer has a superb long case clock by Daniel Gill,case made in satinwood. Samuel Gill,Rye was his son who started a watch/ Silversmith business in 1810 and had watches stolen from his shop in 1810.

Samuel was born in 1784. and his father Daniel may have closed his clock making business down circa 1800 close links with Apps of Battle.

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